Should i tell sven about the letter

This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in any order. Some stages may therefore repeat objectives seen in other stages. If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest. On the PC, it is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering setstage FreeformRiverwood01 stage , where stage is the number of the stage you wish to complete.

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Use a forged letter to resolve a love triangle. Sven or Faendal. Camilla Valerius is at the center of a love triangle. Objective Deliver Sven's letter to Camilla. Objective Deliver Faendal's letter to Camilla.

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When I approached this quest, I did so in a different fashion. I too talked to Sven first, but decided not to go along with his plan. After he gave me the fake letter, I decided to reveal his attempts at deception, since like you I was playing a moral character, and I could not abide by that. Instead of going to Camilla though, I approached Faendal with the letter instead, since I figured he was the one who was going to be screwed over by it. When he produced a fake letter of his own, I this time agreed to deliver it, taking his side in the quest and earning him as my follower instead.

Although it was essentially the same deception, I viewed it when Faendal did it as payback for Sven's attempts, so slightly more justifiable. I know that Faendal does the same thing as Sven if you approach him first, but since I didn't, I saw him as the wronged party and decided to deliver the fake letter for him.

That Camilla was still being deceived didn't much enter the equation for me, since the deception mostly affected Sven. In retrospect, I feel that taking the letter straight to Camilla and outing Sven's attempts at deception without bringing Faendal into the equation would have been a better course of action, even if it would have achieved the same results. It would have been more honourable, anyway.

Very much liking this blog so far, by the way. Thanks for your compliment and your encouragement! In case you haven't seen it, please read Tari's comment below.

Her take on it really differs from mine, yours, and vet's. I am enjoying this blog too. Very refreshing in the midst of the sea of gamers who don't seem to be aware of the value or enjoyment of considering anything past what gets you the most loot. I, probably because I am a female gamer, had a very different reaction to the situation of Sven's attempted deceit. Camilla's future happiness might well be at stake. Not a frivolous consideration at all! I also had observed something else.

Sven's ego was huge and he seemed mostly concerned with "winning" this contest. After watching them both for a while I noted that Faendal spent a lot of time expressing serious emotional investment in her.

Wishing she knew how he felt.. If you watch Faendal he takes time out of every day to visit her. Sven does nothing like that. Faendal also is a hard worker, rising every morning very early to work hard all day chopping wood.

Sven sleeps in till noon and it is supposed to also be working in the lumberyard besides his show business job but you never actually see him do that and instead, it is commented on that he drinks a lot on the job by Gerdur's husband Hod.

For Camilla's sake I took Sven's letter straight to her and told her the deal. If you do that it is true that you end up much more honorably and it is a better course of action overall. He comes from a MUCH different culture and despite his current infatuation with a human seems not really destined for a future of happiness even if she were to choose him over Sven.

Upon watching Camilla I noticed that she spends a lot of time badgering her brother to make exciting changes to his general store or take trips ect.. She seems quite bored and is obviously enjoying the attention she is getting from the exotic Wood Elf, Faendal.

I think it is pretty unlikely she is actually going to favor him as much as he wants in the long run though. The people of Riverwood seem to be very progressive about a lot of things in comparison to others but even they are not likely to approve of it. Still, my choice seems the best one.

Even if I have my doubts about how things will work out for them Camilla still deserves all the facts about a decision that may impact the rest of her life and Faendal deserves the right to make his own mistakes. I certainly left all concerned in better shape when I left Riverwood than you did! Wow, Tari -- you really made me think twice about this quest! I'm particularly impressed with the way you observed the characters before making your decision. I think I made mine too rashly -- an unfortunate characteristic of the early parts of this playthough.

I was attempting to "get in" with the first resident of Riverwood I encountered, and perhaps "bro'ed" it up a bit oo much with Sven. Thanks for your comment, and sorry for the delay in my response. Tari, I enjoyed your detailed thinking here. I immediately disliked and distrusted Sven whom I met first. He came off as arrogant and narcissistic and there was no way I'd help him deceive a woman. Even had I liked him, I would have been repelled by the self-important possessiveness he felt for Camilla.

I did not find him charming, even though his character obviously thought himself so. I initially had the opposite impression of Faendal. I saw him as earnest and a hard worker, and I saw his air-of-superiority as the coping mechanism of a not-fully-accepted outsider. However, I was put off by the fact that he was also perfectly happy to deceive the woman he professed to love, and concluded they were both jerks.

Rather then play games or take sides, I simply wanted her to know the truth and do what she wanted with the information. I saved and reloaded several times during the process because I kept getting boxed in while trying to find a way to 'out' both of them.

I never figured it out and ended up telling her about Sven's forgery, since he seemed the worst choice. I was unhappy with this result, though, because I was forced to choose for her rather than simply giving her the facts. I wish I had thought of pickpocketing as a tool here. I actually don't like pickpocketing and have never used it to steal.

I've only occasionally used it to peek at what character is carrying, without actually taking. I've always been happiest playing as a fairly good character. While I'm perfectly content to kill bandits and hostiles, I treat the NPCs much as I would real people in the real world.

It's not fun to me to be cruel or exploit them, and I feel regret when the game forces me to do something I don't agree with. I have a huge amount of respect for the sheer amount of work that it took to develop this game. The more seriously I take the situations and characters, the more I appreciate the work it took to create them all.

I wasn't upset in turning her against the elf. I'm working on a moral character and when I did research, faendal never seems to love her. In fact, even though he visits herand if you set him up with her, if say From faendal.

Just wanted her. I did not know that was a possible outcome. I do remember getting that kind of letter from Sven after killing Faendal, but what you describe is even more unsettling.

Just happened to stumble across this blog as I was debating whether or not to do the Pieces of the Past quest, as I play a very benevolent character as well although he will murder in cold blood any Thalmor he can manage without getting caught. I also came up with a background for my character As such, his morals tend to go completely out the window whenever he encounters one.

I talked to Sven first and immediately turned his letter in too. While I'm not terribly pleased with the fact that Faendal would have stooped to the same lows as him, they both referred to the other as "Elf" or "That Nord," implying that they were both somewhat prejudiced, or that they were just emotionally charged regarding this matter.

As far as the "For a Nord village" comment, my character saw a foreigner who may miss his home rather than a snooty Bosmer.

Clearly he didn't hold with the Thalmor as much as the rest of Valenwood did or he wouldn't be swooning for a human girl, and treating her so kindly. So like most other people commenting here, apparently, I chose to screw over Sven as well. Looking forward to reading the rest of these posts, and the continuation of your blog.

I like your take on Faendal, and now that I re-read the post, I guess I was willing to screw Sven over too I think I eventually helped Sven out of some kind of misplaced racial loyalty, but I don't think helping Faendal is any more defensible. The more comments I read, the more I wish I had just told Camilla the truth about both of them. I just discovered this blog the other day and am really enjoying reading through your posts so far.

Thank you so much for your efforts. I figured you might appreciate learning how I handled this scenario since it varies so drastically from the other accounts presented here. Wishing to explore Skyrim in a manner less conventional, I avoided Riverwood entirely at the start of the game and trekked all the way up to Dawnstar before settling in to meeting folks and taking on quests.